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No Motive Yet In Connecticut School Shooting

Newtown police say all victims' families have been notified and that officials are not yet releasing the names of the gunman or children killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

 

Newtown, Conn., residents reeling from the massacre of 26 people, including 20 children, at an elementary school on Friday are searching for answers about the gunman’s motive.

Police have said that they are “working backwards” to piece together the “why” behind the mass shooting in this town of about 27,000 about 60 miles northeast of New York City. A noon Saturday prayer service is scheduled for St. John's Episcopal Church in Sandy Hook, a section of Newtown.

Newtown Police Lt. George Sinko, the department’s public information officer, told Patch Saturday morning that investigators have no sense of what prompted the gunman to act.

“There is no sense of motive at this time,” Sinko said.

Though Connecticut State Police have declined to identify the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter, he is being widely identified as 20-year-old Adam Lanza. According to NBC News, three weapons used in the shootings—two 9 mm handguns and a rifle—were legally purchased and registered to Lanza’s mother, a teacher at the school whom police say was found dead at her Sandy Hook home.

Parents of schoolchildren at the scene Friday told Patch that the school was locked and that all visitors needed to be buzzed in. Sinko said Saturday that the gunman appeared to have blasted his way inside.

Police radio dispatches aired by CNN reveal harrowing early communications to emergency responders who arrived at the elementary school around 9:40 a.m. Friday.

"Caller is indicating she thinks that someone is shooting in the building," a dispatcher says. "The front glass has been broken."

And later: "All units, the individual that I have on the phone is continuing to hear what he believes to be gunfire. Units are responding to Sandy Hook school as this time. The shooting appears to have stopped. The school is in lockdown."

According to Sinko, the gunman may have shot out glass next to the front door of the school.

“We say that because the window next to the door was shattered. We are still investigating," Sinko said.

Sinko said investigators are sorting through a “tremendous amount of evidence."

Much of the investigators’ work involves checking motor vehicles, Sinko said.

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Barney

10:15 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Horrible for the families.

Hollywood needs to stop with the violent movies and games. This comes before any type of gun control.

Then, tighter restriuctions on WHO can buy guns.

What types of guns can be purchased means nothing.

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wookfish

10:19 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Barney, we don't need more laws, we need to enforce the ones we already have ie. why was that dirt bag out on bail on a gun charge when he killed that lakewood police officer? just sayin

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Bella

10:39 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Enforce w/ what? There needs to be a ban on these high powered weapons. THERE IS NO NEED FOR THOSE TYPE OF GUNS for civilians. Control need to start at the production & distribution level. The people who sell these weapons no longer go to "gun Shows."

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Barney

10:50 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

What is a high powered weapon?

LOL!

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wookfish

3:40 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Enforce what you ask? THE LAW..a jackass robbed a gas station with a toy gun the other night and people are posting on here that he was a confused kid and it was only a toy and no one got hurt. guess what Bella? He can and should be charged with armed robbery...And another thing,be it guns, drugs, handgernades,tanks,etc. get your head out of the sand, if you have enough money you can buy ANYTHING

oldsoldier

11:05 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Bans/laws will only work for those who obey the laws. Do you ban cars when someone drives through a crowd and kills people? Do you ban knives when someone stabs someone? How about banning video games that encourage killing? You cannot ban or legislate crazy people out of killing, unfortunately. We need to pray for these families and these children. We need to mourn their loss. Then, let's figure out how we got to this point as a people.

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Joiseymom

12:05 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

The voice of reason! Thank You!

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Bella

12:53 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Those things you mention are not designed to kill people. Again, Why do we need them?
And Barney High powered weapon is a term I USE to mean these nasty mass killing machines.
THERE IS NO NEED FOR THEM! Children's death should not be on the Altar of the god damn 2nd Amendment.

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Laura

8:55 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

Well, I guess we don't need speed limits either as no one pays attention to them.

WMS826

2:02 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Seccesion now...any gun control will speed up the process so lets just get it over and seperate.

It's called mental illness which you people ignore everytime you walk past the homless guy sleeping in the street instead of in his goverment subsidized home by various programs we all pay for.

Lets ask why is this happening all of sudden. What is making us more violent since guns have been here since they were invented. Is it violent video games, violent movies, lack of family values. Internet access to violent material unsupervised by poor parents.

Why did we close all our mental hospitals here in NJ except for one. Where did these people go and what do we do with the new ones out there. Lock these people up, forced castration on the mental paitients we have now, and death penalty for the criminally insane would be a good start.

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VTPat

4:15 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Oh no, not here too!! Motive? personality disorder? gun control? Unbelievable!

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Michael Guenther

7:11 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

I think the reason the slightly built Lanza picked a grade school was to miminize the chance of being physically overpowered. Some things are not complicated. He wanted to feel invincible, that's why he wore a bullet proof vest too. I get that we have too many guns in this country but too many bullet proof vests too! Maybe we need vest control too. I don't have a problem with private ownership of assault weapons and automatics being severely restricted if not banned. If only criminals have guns it would still be a big improvement if all they had were shotguns and saturday night specials. After all a rocket launcher is nothing but a big gun but nobody argues that their private ownership is constitutionally protected. Anything we can do to give these maniacs second thouhts about acting out their sick fantasies should be considered.

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Joe R

8:28 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Ban these damn semi-automatic guns. Enough of the weekly mass slaughters. The guns were legal, his mom purchased them for protection, ha, ha, what a joke. She purchased the guns for protection and then her son shots her in the head with her precious guns. Wow, those guns really were protective. We need stronger gun laws now across the country, I am sick of the slaughters and this one in Newtown, CT, is horrific beyond belief. When is enough enough? The US has gun murder rates many times the other industrialized democracies. We are a sick violence prone, gun saturated country with gun slaughters galore. And yet the reaction is, shh, shh, do nothing, we must not offend Wayne LaPierre or the NRA, we have enough laws.

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BobDee

9:02 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

We only need to ask one simple question : What psychiatric drug was he taking or withdrawing from? Sometimes simple questions are the hardest to ask.

Those questions would be real real hard for the media to ask, because after reporting the event, taking station breaks for advertisements for antidepressants and other psychiatric drugs might give big media editors and producers indigestion , since they depend on Big Pharma sponsorship.

•Eric Harris, the triggerman in the Columbine school shootings, killed his fellow students and took his own life while taking Luvox.
•Thirteen year-old Chris Fetters killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

•Twelve year-old Christopher Pittman murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

•Thirteen year-old Mathew Miller hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

•Fifteen year-old Jarred Viktor stabbed his grandmother 61 times after 5 days on Paxil.

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BobDee

9:02 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Fifteen year old Kip Kinkel (Prozac and RITALIN) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

Luke Woodham aged 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

Boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 who in seizure activity from Zoloft had a stand off at the school.

Michael Carneal (Ritalin) a 14-year-old opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded, one of whom was paralyzed.

Young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

Andrew Golden, aged 11,(Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14,(Ritalin) shot 15 people killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

TJ Solomon, aged 15,(Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

Rod Mathews, aged 14,(Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
James Wilson, aged 19,(Psychiatric Drugs - various) Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

Elizabeth Bush aged 13 (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

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BobDee

9:03 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa)- school shooting in El Cajon, California

Another boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) had a stand off at the school.
Jarred Viktor aged 15 (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

Chris Shanahan aged 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

Eric Harris aged 17 (Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 in Colombine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado, killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and injured 23 others, before killing themselves.

Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister

Neal Furrow,(Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications

BobDee

9:05 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

http://ssristories.com/
This website is a collection of 4,800+ news stories with the full media article available, mainly criminal in nature, that have appeared in the media (newspapers, TV, scientific journals) or that were part of FDA testimony in either 1991, 2004 or 2006, in which psych drugs are mentioned.

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Tom C

10:15 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

It is the ssri's, plain and simple. Big pharma continues to get away with murder without even a mention by the msm. 99% of the public is unaware of this connection between big pharma and these shootings

Ken Lippin

9:07 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Illegal drugs are "banned", how's that workin' for ya'? Get a grip man, a mentally ill, evil, being, wreaks havoc on poor unsuspecting innocents and immediately you call for a banning of my Freedom? Think it through, how about checking the state of mental health care in this nation?

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OC Raiders

1:00 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

Bleep you and your freedom. 20 dead kindergardeners the price of your freedom? Most gun nuts are tiny dic white boys with no game, who got whooped in every fair fight they ever been in. So they drive F-150's and belong to the NRA to compensate.

BobDee

9:13 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

The above post, I copied from a post I made in July 2012 here on the patch. Just like the AMA we "react" to symptoms and fail to address the cause.

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BobDee

9:23 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

P.S. A note to news media covering the story, What happened to journalistic ethics! Interviewing children in shock, with the consent of a parent (who is also in shock) is not responsible journalism; it's the worst kind of ratings grab and demonstrates no regard for the victims of trauma. STOP BROADCASTING CHILDREN IN SHOCK. STOP ASKING PARENTS IN SHOCK FOR PERMISSION THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND. News without ethics is not news, it prurient voyeurism of the very worst kind. You have disgraced your Networks, your stations, your news service and yourselves. SHAME ON YOU ALL.

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Bryan

9:40 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Do you really think gun control laws will stop a criminal from getting or using a gun?

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Laura

9:08 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

It might just stop one and that makes it one tragedy averted.

Barney

10:03 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

BAN HOLLYWOOD BLOOD THIRSTY MURDER MOVIE PRODUCING LIBERAL TREE SUCKING HUGGERS THAT LIKE TO MAKE MONEY!

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notrequired

10:58 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

This has been there and this will be there... Two sets of people, one for gun control and other against it.

What America bought to the world is the word freedom. Gun control is not something this post war 60-80s great nation would like.

But let's face it. Is this problem all about gun control? Not really and we all know it. I speak to a lotof people who say this country is going nowhere. Why? New generation ddoesn't have any respect for old. And this surely is true. The seeds are sown here. Parents raise a child, divorce, don't care much for him, he plays first person real like shooting game, fights with everyone he knows and one day takes his frustration out on others by means of massacre.

Can this ever end? Till our society fixes its own morale, it won't. Can gun control stop this? No, but itcan reduce it for sure. If there aain't no gun, there can't be a massacre.

Videogame, movies, whatevere are just reasons we are looking for. Crimes were there even when these games were not there. But our problems were limited then than how it is now.

I'm a gun lover, and I would be more than happy to go through a number of tests to gain the credibility that I deserve guns.

Unfortunately we are only on a path of disdain.

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John Pine

12:33 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

You hit the nail on the head. But the politicians and media will always blame guns to distract people from the real problem, and the real problem is the people doing these crimes.

Justice Ironwulf

11:13 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

I think your mention of the violent video games is being highly ignored. This shooter was very involved in LAN games. There has been no mention of exactly what kind of games, and I am sure the others that played them with this guy will cover their collective butts and make us believe it was Burt and Ernie ! I am certain it was gun related.

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OC Raiders

12:13 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

The motive for the shooting..........you are a heartless, violent people who spawn your dirty seed into malfunctioning wombs and create soulless people incapable of love or empathy for others.

And you got a lot of guns around. Always a bad combination.

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bayboat

9:14 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

LOCKED UP guns around are no problem.

John Pine

12:30 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

I fear this will result in more gun control calls. But its people, not guns, that are doing the killing. This sick individual never should have been able to access the guns. But more important, he was a danger to others, so why was he left to do this savage crime? The person should've been institutionalized, but, as well all know, there has been many cutbacks to mental health services. Many clinics don't have enough staff to properly treat patients. You cant just throw mentally ill people out on the streets or into society without proper treatment. And you cant just make it harder to get guns because the bad people will always find a way to get them. We actually need to make it easier for the good people to be armed. Perhaps if one of the teachers at that school was armed, the shooter could've been stopped before he took more lives.

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Laura

9:18 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

How do you institutionalize someone who has shown no propensity for violence? So you believe institutionlizing everyone that you deem possibly violent is going to work? Medical Health professionals don't even agree on that one. Millions of people in this country are mentally ill but they don't kill. Let's take away their rights so we don't impede yours.

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NJarhead

10:08 am on Tuesday, December 18, 2012

And millions of people own guns legally and don't kill anyone. The argument of gun control is weak. It doesn't work. What's more sickening is your willingness, and that of the likes of you, to protect the rights of one aspect profile, while completely discounting the other, and why? Because you know nothing of guns, because you don't like guns. No one should have their rights debated, or pressured into debate, by the vastly uninformed. Especially in the wake of a tragedy.

Opinionated

1:14 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

Revelations are starting to come out about this. The question is: Will the media be honest and tell the truth? Their track record has certainly been pretty poor. Almost as poor as the premature comments about gun control. It's sad where people will use a tragedy like this to push their selfish agendas. That just shows their character, or lack thereof.

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notrequired

1:47 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

It ain't just Lanza, its in all of us. The only difference is even if we hit the lows we know what is ethically correct. Lanza didn't fear for his life, his mental ability was limited to see him dead and take a bunch with him so that he can rest in peace.

And this ability comes only from us because we gave it to him.

There might be more Lanzas in their basement, planning to steal their parents collector edition guns and execute innocent people in schools, universities while their parents try to fix their lives and maybe a disfunctional marriage.

Truth is we have come too far now. We can't go back and we will have to live with consequences of our own freedom.

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chtulu2000

7:49 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

2 problems here...most people equate gun control with gun removal, and that is not the case...the majority of advocates for gun control are not trying to stop ownership of guns, just trying to control what type of guns and ammo are available, and make it more formal for the general public to obtain these guns...why not take a written test, vision test, and a live test much like a drivers license?

Second issue is the state of mental health in NJ and the nation....stop lobbying and the pharmaceutical companies have no leg to stand on with these insane drugs they prescribe, and increase the number of mental health facilities so that people, like this sick guy, can get sustained treatment and not be let loose on the public.

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oldsoldier

7:59 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

I'm glad all of you are looking at how we the people got here: Mental illness, prescription drugs and illegal ones, bad parenting, declining family values, gun control, movies/video games, internet access to violent material, as so on. Out of all of these, I believe guns were around LONG before these other issues (even mental illness was not a recognized issue). Like cars, knives, household chemicals and other products, guns have other purposes besides killing people, but they can be used by people to kill other people. Pick your flavor. For me, I believe most people's issues can be traced back to their parents. I don't care what is out there, if parents are responsible, caring, nurturing and teach their children proper values, much of this would not be happening.

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oldsoldier

9:16 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

For those of you wanting yet again Government to fix these problems, ask yourselves: How is it working? You want the schools to be fortresses, armed guards and increased school hours? Do you want to spend time with your children or not? How about take some time away from the video games, TV or your other things going on in your lives and spend time with your children? I know this may be inconvenient for some, but no excuses. Next, teach them family values, right vs wrong, good vs evil, and how to make good choices in life. Also, truly punish the evil doers in society. Stop saying prisoners have rights, letting them work out, and watch TV. How many get out just to repeat offenses against the rest of us? Make them stay in a small cell, no workout or exercise, except to attend a bible and high school study groups, and think about what they did. Also, realize that evil can exist in people, and some so bad that they should not live. Also, if you are a good, law-abiding citizen, thank your parents and your grandparents.

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Laura

9:23 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

You don't seem to understand mental illness? Proper values are not going to cure mental illness.

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NJarhead

10:09 am on Tuesday, December 18, 2012

And you don't understand crime. Criminals don't abide by the law. Only law abiding citizens will be affected by your knee-jerk, "feel good" legislation proposal.

Bryan

9:05 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

@oldsoldier you are right, i dont blame the guns or video games, this shooting is mental illness! I dont believe any gun law can stop a criminal from getting his or her hands on one. Yes there should be a gun limits maybe? My son has played shooter video games for years mostly ww2 based games and has developed a love for history , military and is a history honors student, that is member of a National youth leadership program. But parenting has to go along with it, we always drilled him that these are games and not reality. Soo many parents buy games with no idea what they are about, ratings on it or not. I knew a mom who bought their 9 year old a Grand Theift Auto game, which is about carjacking and beating hookers! When she saw heard heard child boasting about things in the game she was shocked and took it back from the child ,but soo many parents dont even pay attention to it.

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Joe R

11:17 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

Guns don't make us safer. Lanza's mother loved guns, collected guns, she had access to guns and so did her demented son. She was killed in her own home by her beloved guns. Guns in the home don't make you safer, especially in homes where one of the members is emotionally disturbed. Ban the damn semi-automatics.

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bayboat

9:12 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

One thing the mother didnt do as she was supposed to do was LOCK UP her guns.
Every gun thats not an automatic is a semi. What you want to do then is ban EVERY gun then.
No.

Sal

12:05 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012

It was not an "Isolated Incident". It is happening more and more frequently ALL AROUND the entire Globe. Some either environmental cause is responsible or possibly related to high levels of solar flare activity and cosmic rays from our sun. It is Worldwide, not a USA alone problem. It may also be related to___ Birds falling dead from the sky around the globe. Whales and porpoises beaching themselves or washing up dead. Bees and bat birds vanishing. Fish dies offs in lakes, streams and oceans all around the Globe. We have seen more revolutions and total chaos in nations all around the planet in the past few years alone___than in the past 4 decades as more and more people kill their fellow countrymen and neighbors, and destroy the homes, buildings, offices, stores etc. in their own countries. Evolution never ends___we appear to be evolving backwards now and becoming more primitive once again and completely losing our ability to be reasonable and rational.

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bayboat

9:10 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

If we're evolving backwards like you believe, and are losing our ability to be rational...I WANT A GUN to defend myself against all these backwards, illogical people!

Joe R

1:54 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012

On Friday in Indiana
CEDAR LAKE, Ind. — A northern Indiana man who allegedly threatened to "kill as many people as he could" at an elementary school near his home was arrested by officers who later found 47 guns and ammunition hidden throughout his home.

Von. I. Meyer, 60, of Cedar Lake, was arrested Saturday after prosecutors filed formal charges of felony intimidation, domestic battery and resisting law enforcement against him. He was being held Sunday without bond at the Lake County Jail, pending an initial hearing on the charges, police said in a statement.

Cedar Lake Police officers were called to Meyer's home early Friday after he allegedly threatened to set his wife on fire once she fell asleep, the statement said.

Meyer also threatened to enter nearby Jane Ball Elementary School "and kill as many people as he could before police could stop him," the statement said. Meyer's home is less than 1,000 feet from the school and linked to it by trails and paths through a wooded area, police said.

Police said in the statement that they notified school officials and boosted security at all area schools Friday – the same day 26 people, including 20 students, were shot and killed at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn.

We are awash in guns and crazed psycopaths.

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Barney

9:12 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012

Joe,

You sound like the type of kid who should never own a gun.

Are you one of Obama's sheeple?

Barneylicous

mjmjr

2:37 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012

PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE,NOT GUNS.

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mjmjr

2:44 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012

SICK PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE,THAT YOU CAN NOT STOP,THERE ARE PSYCOPATHS ALL OVER THE WORLD,IT NOT GUNS,PEOPLE ARE GOING NUTS MAYBE BECAUSE THE ECONOMY.OR DRUGS. WE ARE LIVING IN A DIFFERENT WORLD TODAY,GET USE TO IT AND PROTECT YOUR SELF AND CHILDREN.

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Marlboro Guy

8:08 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

How's about banning all the XBOX games of War and killing in the U.S. - keep them in Japan and let them kill people over there. All American youths are getting decensitized to violence and neglecting their schoolwork and family values.

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debra

8:17 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

really marlboro guy are you blaming video games???im 43 years old have been playing video games since i was 5 im still playing Call of Duty.. i never once thought of going out and killing people,many of my friends children play these games and are quite gifted,how about taking a look at these families and seeing how many have a father figure or even a family that does things together,i think we need to take a closer look at this mother and ok she liked guns(strange hobby for a woman) did she really need them for protection? she lived in one of the safets places in america. everyone is saying he never showed any kind of violent behavior,how do we know? maybe some stuff went on behind closed doors we will never know about,the father wasnt in the picture,why was that? maybe because he did show violence towards his new family perhaps. before we go blaming guns and video games lets get the whole true story first.

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Barney

8:29 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

Marlboro Guy,

I am seeing a pattern here. Why is it all of the gun control bullies have horrible grammar and might be illiterate?

Frank Rizzo, Tim and now Debra.

Oh ya, they are lazy liberals looking to soak up your hard earned money.

Barneylicous

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Laura

9:32 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

Actually, Barney, I see it differently than you do. I notice the gun rights bullies tend to be intractable and afraid that someone is going to come and take their guns away. I do hope those guns make you feel safe. How can we be sure, especially with your rhetoric, that you aren't mentally challenged?

Mark

8:10 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

Joe, Its people that kill...not guns...That's like saying a pencil caused a kid to fail the test. This is let's make excuses for everyone and everything. Laws are not going to stop from people doing things. Such as drugs underage drink. The real problem is not having adequate help for mental illness. Mental illness is a sickness that can happen to someone anytime. You can be normal, have a chemical in balance that can set someone off.

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Karen Bolden

8:30 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

Pencils cannot kill people....that's a rediculous analogy. You gun advocates will never get it. Help for the mentally ill, people kill not guns.....yada yada.........first, mentally ill people easily seem to get themselves guns.....so, the first logical step is to KEEP GUNS FROM THEM by keeping them out of society. Yes, people are evil but evil people get guns.....so the first step is to KEEP GUNS FROM THEM...........see how this logic goes?? It's not difficult to understand the connection between the ease of getting guns with the crazies atari first choice always seem to be a firearm!! Stop your agenda for once and think of society!!!

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Mark

8:12 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012

Go back and read my comments... I said I feel Mental illness is the real problem that would cause a person to kill anyone, never mind innocent little kids. Mental illness could affect anyone. It is not all poor people like some seem to think, it affects rich people as well. You missed my point with the pencil or car, never said it is designed to kill anyone. I am just sick of all the excuses of pinning the blame on one thing or another. Each person should be responsible for themselves and their own actions. If a kid fails a test, they will try to blame the pencil if they could as silly as it sounds. I was just making a point, or the teacher which is the one to get the usual blame. It's not that the kid didn't study. If someone gets in to a car drunk, the car has killed plenty being it is a heavy piece of machinery. Is it the car's fault? No, it is the person who chose to get in to the car drunk. As well as drugs, if you are drugged out it can wind up killing someone if someone makes the wrong decision. We just keep on blaming instead of taking responsibility that something has to be done with mental illness. It was stated in the paper that no one really knows if it was mental illness that caused this. Well, I say, get your head out of your butt! Mental Illness is the only thing that would cause someone to shoot little kids and Adults cold blooded. I don't care how many laws you put through, if someone goes off the deep end and they want to get a few guns they will.

mgh

8:46 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

Guns are a device used created to kill lol. A pencil isn't, a car isn't. They were created to do something very simple: kill. Even a knife while a weapon, was not originally designed as a means to kill but a tool. Whether it be a deer, a human, or an intruder in your home. So, yeah the only thing guns should compare to in analogies are other weapons whose soul purpose was to kill, missiles, nukes, etc… Not pencils.

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bayboat

9:07 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

Guns are designed to shoot a bullet out of one end.
99.9 % of the time its used for target shooting or hunting.

mgh

8:50 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

It doesn't matter WHAT you use the gun for (defending, fighting, hunting) there are a) certain types of guns that a normal citizen should not have and b) anything can be turned into a weapon, but something that is BUILT to be a weapon, should have some very strict guidelines and rules on who can or can carry/use.

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debra

9:03 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

Barney, for your information i hate guns,and calling people illiterate is kind of being a bully.we are on a computer for crying out loud not writing an essay,grow up..
I lived in Arizona for years in the desert,we had guns lots of them never liked them never shot one. but really did those guns go to this young man and say hey you should use me to kill all those children.. no his mind did it. having access to shose guns made it easier for him to act it out. And if i heard the news correctly he went to purchase his own gun but was denied.Do I think assault weapons should be banned yes.. no need for the common citizen to have one.

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mgh

9:21 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

Bayboat, the first guns were created in the 1200s in China and used by the military. Not for hunting.

As for the present, target practice? Lol im not going to waste my breath on that statement. But I will repeat what I said, doesn't matter what you use the gun for, it's still a weapon whose purpose was to inflict as much damage and death.

Which is why cops are trained to pull out your gun to kill.

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~Barb~

9:29 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

How do you propose to get each and every single gun out of the urban crime centers? Then there's the little issue of black market imports of what is sure to be inferior grade ammunition. The problem with Liberals is that they always think they have a one size fits all panacea for everything.

mgh

9:44 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

Unfortunately, that is also the other issue.. How do you get anything of value off the black market like drugs? We all know how well the war on drugs turned out.

Only way is to make the item obsolete and/or ineffective and useless. How do you do that? No f*cking clue lol

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Opinionated

1:18 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012

Those who want to ban guns should read this and then we'll see what your next excuse will be. http://www.kgw.com/news/Clackamas-man-armed-confronts-mall-shooter-183593571.html

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Tim

2:08 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012

@ opinionated

hereAs I was going down to pull, I saw someone in the back of the Charlotte move, and I knew if I fired and missed, I could hit them," he said.s why you dont act like rambo"

not to mention how do the cops know who the bad guy is?
idiot

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oldsoldier

8:09 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012

To Laura - I'm glad you brought that up. If parents structure their children's lives properly and instill proper values, instead of leaving them to figure things out for themselves or be their friends, perhaps it may not cure mental illness, but it might just prevent someone from developing one of the many mental illnesses out there and enable them to cope better. To be taught "this is why you do the right thing" instead of "there is a reason why you do not do the right thing", could help at least someone. And if it does help one person to help themselves, isn't that worth it?

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